TarteHow to Sucesfully post about the Fediverse on Reddit
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
Recently we’ve seen a spike in PieFed users, a lot of this came form raising awareness of PieFed’s existence on Reddit.
Here’s some info you’d need if you want to help raise awareness of PieFed on reddit.
Reddit uses AI to make a summary of a users behavior that it shows to mods, and will flag people who seem spammy eg.
Steps to make a successful reddit post:
- Don’t have a sus account
- Make it a image post with a nice catching image (Most important)
- Don’t include any links away from reddit in the post, don’t even add it to the comments (have others do that)
Sucesfull posts examples:
- https://piefed.social/c/fedibridge/p/1711535/post-with-5k-views-in-1h-promoting-the-fediverse
- https://piefed.social/c/fedibridge/p/1727090/post-promoting-the-fedrivers-on-r-degoogle-on-globalswitchday
- https://piefed.social/c/fedigrow/p/1720677/post-mentioning-piefed-ca-in-r-buycanadian
These 3 posts got ~500,000 views between them
- Don’t go and spam reddit with low effort content. It can do more harm than good.
- Don’t post to the same sub more than once a month
- Don’t post links in the comments of your own post unless it’s already gone viral, instead let others post links or let people figure it out for themselves.
I’ve tried to promote Lemmy in the past, but Immediately I get comments of people complaining about the UI, UX and tankies which kills all momentum. I’ve had much better success with PieFed so sticking to that going forward.
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LibbI don’t use Reddit anymore, I won’t be able to promote piefed over there, but these sound like very good suggestions I would have happily followed. Thx for sharing.
Also, I’m troubled looking at your graph: are we really less than 6k active users daily? I’m fine with the total amount of users being tiny compared to reddit, obviously but, well, that’s… probably just me being stubbornly naive and still wishing for crowds of reddit users to jump ship ;)
Edit: clarifications.
PieFed also shares users with Lemmy and mbin etc. across the fediverse. So we’re ~50k users, still a low number, but hopefully it will keep growing
Despite the “low” user count I’ve still found a great community here
Despite the “low” user count I’ve still found a great community here
Oh, I agree, no question about that. And no desire to move back to reddit either.
db0Where does reddit show this AI summary to mods? I’m still a mod in some comms but don’t see it. Ah found it. It’s on user hovering but doesn’t seem to always work. For example I don’t a summary on myself, probably because I stopped posting since 2023
It doesn’t always show a summary, the person needs to comment or post in your community. Sometimes they need to comment a few times before it shows.
Not 100% sure how it works
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Well done on gaining that much traction. Its pretty hard to get people to actually leave site and look at the alternatives. Also that AI summary is so depressing, reddit is really going to boil and entire person down to a sentence.
Here are some more examples, it’s quite interesting
Oh boy, I did not know reddit had gotten that bad.
they have been aggressively upping thier AI/detection og botters and spammers recently. basically people were using anti-detect browsers and mobile proxies on different mobile phones to evade reddits detection temporarily to use hordes of accounts at once. reddit however is going to lowest hanging fruit, it barely makes a dent in the propaganda bots, but target the ones that drives businesses to thier own website.
Why is that one about the WarEra user green?
It’s a different subreddit, they set the theme to green
Are these only visible for users that made comments in the modded subreddit? I wonder if I can make it show a summary for my own account, since I’ve gotten some weird limitations lately-ish.
Only visible if someone makes a comment in a sub that you mod.
Oh the PROFANITY!
Wow, the atmosphere really is much more negative on Reddit these days, huh. Lots of “Ew no one uses that, don’t bother.”
Still—sounds like starter packs for Lemmy/Piefed would be useful. Is anyone working on those?
Afaiu some instances or apps have ‘starter packs’.
look I like bumping the fediverse as much as the next person but not enough to make an image post for textual content
I have some ethical standards
What’s unethical about it?
It’s a hyperbole. It’s not unethical. But many people don’t like it/hate it.
There’s probably many more points.
To be clear, Ek is talking about posting image posts on Reddit who allow video uploads. I don’t think this is a problem there. Moreover, the infographics are more successful at getting attention than just plain-text comment-posts. It is what it is.
The post will get ZERO traction if it’s not a image post, I’ve tried.
Did you read what my post was about?
I’m not saying that you shouldn’t do what you do. You just asked why someone would be against doing an image post when it could be a text post and I answered.
What you are doing cannot be done with text posts because of reason 2 and 3.
Text posts simply don’t get the same message across though, which is why they aren’t as effective.
You can communicate a LOT more info in a short time-span with a image.
Do you NEVER watch movies because books exist?
Content-Encoding: gzipwould like a word. :PAgreed on all points other than that nitpick
Just cringe for us oldheads
Nice info but I have given up on Reddit.
Keep on fighting the good fight. 💪
Sometimes I wonder if they haven’t moved over by now, do we really want them? The users I see at Reddit these days are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
The might not be the brightest tools in the shed, but we also don’t want the fediverse to be just filled with a bunch of rocket surgeons, we want people from all over creating their own communities etc.
I’m not a fan of gatekeeping decentralized alternatives because people aren’t “smart” enough. I don’t think people don’t switch because they are stupid, but instead because PieFed doesn’t yet offer what they need in a replacement.
Be careful what you wish for: Reddit admins turned VOAT into a right-wing cesspool overnight by banning a few repungent subreddits. They all jumped ship for VOAT, and polluted the community. Of course, this was probably all planned to get rid of an upstart competitor.
I’m pretty sure the Voat admins wanted Voat to be right wing.
I heard about voat back in the day and thought “Oh, cool, like reddit without some of the overbearing crap from the admins”.
Then I went to voat and read a few posts.
Well, shit. I didn’t want to be on a nazi site. So much for that.
Are there any equivalent quarantine subs that would have a similar effect on the threadiverse? Right-wing people in particular seem to be convinced it is not what they are looking for, fortunately, judging from comments I saw when I browsed r/RedditAlternatives.
I don’t know, I’m not sure that people who find Reddit in it’s current form to still be a useful/enjoyable experience are people I want to share a community with.
I really hate the elitism / gatekeeping I so often see on here.
People scoffing at those still using other platforms, thinking they’re better than them etc.
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How is Reddit easier to use?
PieFed is extremely easy to use. Its searching sucks, but so too does Reddit’s (Lemmy sets an extraordinarily high bar there: Lemmy’s searching is supremely excellent).
Reddit is definitely larger and has more niche communities - I’m not pushing back on that, just questioning why Reddit is easier to use than PieFed.
Or did you mean that Reddit is much easier to use than Lemmy? That I would agree with - Lemmy is extremely lacking, e.g. user polls, user & post flairs, multi-communities, notifications for things, e.g. if you get banned then Lemmy will never tell you but PieFed will, and the list just goes on and on and on and on… but that’s just Lemmy, not all of the Threadiverse.
Edit: oh, maybe you mean apps? I don’t generally use Threadiverse apps but whenever I have done so then they seem fairly great - like Voyager? (The default settings should be changed imho, but if you fiddle just a bit then it gets substantially better.) Or maybe you meant old-Reddit? That would be a good point, but you definitely know that Reddit will dump it the very moment that they can get away with doing so. It would help if you expand a bit: what precisely is easier to do on Reddit than on here? And then whatever you say, probably should become the next thing to heavily push forward to make better! :-D
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I’m not gatekeeping, I’m just suggesting maybe not to actively recruit them. I think the good ones will make their way here without a bunch of begging and pleading and convincing. And maybe the rest just aren’t really worth having.
This was the same thing that made me choose Reddit over Digg back in the day, and I never liked it as much after the Digg migration.
So you don’t want to share your community with me?
I still find reddit enjoyable. I use both reddit and PieFed. PieFed lacks niche communities, for that I go to reddit.
Also reddit’s UX is still a lot smoother, I hope PieFed gets there but I’m not going to kid myself and say it’s as good as Reddit just yet.
I use Alexandrite and Voyager and lemmus.org and find the UI and experience to be superior than at any point in my 15 years at Reddit, so I have to question what’s going on for you to make it that way.
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Unfortunately not yet, at least last I checked. That and some missing Voyager features for piefed are what’s keeping me from using it as my primary account.
Fortunately, here we are in charge of our blocks (for the most part).
There are different parts to Reddit. The largest subs that appear on r/all (or rather pop) are one thing, the small niche subs are another, the interactions with Reddit admins one aspect, the less controversial subjects another, and so on.
The Threadiverse is the same - like if you post the “wrong” thing in a tankie space then you will be brigaded with users following and downvoting you across many communities - they even brag about creating accounts specifically for this purpose, to get around bans (bc “no” means you need to keep pushing, consent be damned!!)
But even if the maximum experience here can be much worse than on Reddit, the average interaction is far kinder and nicer, imho.
Yep! I’ve seen it happen me, which is why I created a new identity for myself, so I could get away from those guys.
Even the narrow specialist subreddits I’m on tend to decay almost exclusively to * I just bought the thing that the community is about * Hey guys, be my free tech support * The same 10 memes over and over again
Reddit hasn’t been an open place for intelligent discussion in ages, it’s slop to draw in the morons plus propaganda to control their ideology. No one with a brain takes a redditor seriously… So yeah, the remaining people/fleshbots can stay there.
most are likely bots.
It seems that I have left in time to not catch an AI summary about myself. XD
Don’t be too excited. That’s been done on here at Lemmy too. I think it was called santabot (on slrpnk instance I think), and it would ban/unban you from some guys community purely based on your upvote/downvote ratio even if you had never heard of his community, without any other input. The mod log was filled with “xxxx banned. xxxx unbanned. xxx banned, etc.”
It was controversial, and some called him out on it, but others thought he was doing awesome with it. He mentioned that he was almost done working out the kinks in it and would be offering it to other mods to use.
He’s no longer around now, but I was surprised the admins let him keep using that bot the entire time he was here.
Well, there is a difference between having a situation, where some comunities do use automation tools to ban/unban and where the whole platform uses them.
Sure, but this was a little more than an automod, because it was based on what you did outside of the community, and banned you based on how many downvotes you got from other people.
So let’s say you got 1 upvote for your comment yesterday. Then 2 downvotes today. That unrelated comm, would ban you even if you had never been there,. had never posted in the comm, or even heard of the comm.
Well, then this automation tool was a piece of crap software poorly designed to mimic Reddit’s karma system.
Agreed. And like I mentioned earlier, I was a little troubled by how many were ok with it. Luckily I didn’t see it used anywhere else, and haven’t seen it since the guy left.
Evangelising the Fediverse on Reddit is not for me, but respect to anyone who does try that (I save my evangelising for my irl folk. I’m wearing them down)
Your post should have more upvotes! Thanks for testing and sharing the information. I’m going to try it, I don’t have a reddit account anymore, so I would fail on step one (don’t have a sus account) but I think the general idea is replaceable for getting people to join fedi from any other site
You can try without having step 1 in place, but you might get picked up by reddit’s filters.
If you have a brand new account you often can’t post in most subs or will get flagged for
Advertisingetc.May someone enlighten me on differences between europe.pub and piefed.europe.pub?
Europe.pub is a lemmy instance. Piefed.europe.pub is a piefed instance.
seems the same strategy on a forum i been to about evading reddit bans(for people who wants to steer traffic to thier online business). these are one of the tools that likely they originally keeping secret from mods, of how one of thier detection methods go, but its likely the botting has gotten more intense because they banned more irl users, making them flee to using bots/spam accounts.